Caboose SLSF 1414

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  1. rogerrt477

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    Caboose SLSF 1414 - BN 11644

    Caboose SLSF 1414 - BN 11644 - Thayer, MO. Photograph dated 10/24/1982.
     

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  2. rogerrt477

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    Caboose SLSF 1414 - BN 11644

    caboose SLSF 1414 - BN 11644 - Pierce City, MO. Photograph dated 4/5/1995.
     

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  3. mark

    mark Staff Member Staff Member

    Please see the following links for photographs of Frisco caboose SLSF 1414.

    http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=294901 (12/21/2005)

    http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=951187 (11/3/2007)

    http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=951188 (11/3/2007)

    This is one of the Frisco built extended or wide vision cabooses for local service. This car was built in the Springfield West Car Shops during 8/1975. The main body came from a Pullman Standard boxcar, SLSF 18169.

    Fortunately this caboose has retained all of its original windows. It is easily accessible and well maintained.

    The caboose is nicely painted in red, with white outline coonskin and yellow handrails. The "Ship it on the Frisco!" slogan painted below the cupola is in a slightly non-standard font and orientation. It does not have the standard reporting marks for the railroad SLSF.

    Unfortunately, it has an incorrect number of unknown origin on the side. Currently it is improperly labeled with number 1163. This car never officially carried this number on the Frisco or the successor railroad.

    The car is located on the north side of the street adjacent to a Casey's General Store. It sits to the east side of this franchise convenience store and gas station beside the parking area and gas pumps. The store is located in the south central part of the town, west of Highway 97, 1 block north of the Frisco's Cherokee Subdivision.

    The location address is 250 W. Commercial St. (a/k/a Highway 37), Pierce City, MO.

    Please see http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sou...=r_-M6xQbjB0OxE9B3mgyGA&cbp=11,355.25,,0,6.53.

    Hope this helps.

    Thanks!

    Mark
     
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  4. FriscoFriend (Bob Hoover RIP 4/12/2018)

    FriscoFriend (Bob Hoover RIP 4/12/2018) Passed Away April 12, 2018 Frisco.org Supporter

    To All:

    I stumbled across these two You Tube videos this morning.

    This may or may not be a valid update on Mark's above post, but by his description and attached photograph I believe that it is indeed the same caboose.

    The problem is that it still has the wrong number.

    Also, they are dubbed to somewhat funky music.

    Enjoy!



     
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  5. mark

    mark Staff Member Staff Member

    Bob,

    Thank you for the updated information.

    It appears that the caboose has been moved two blocks east and across the street.

    The new address is at or about 109 W. Commercial St. (a/k/a Highway 37), Pierce City, MO.

    It is now adjacent to the Pierce City Police Department building. This building resembles a railroad depot.

    Hope this helps.

    Thanks!

    Mark
     
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  6. renapper (Richard Napper RIP 3/8/2013)

    renapper (Richard Napper RIP 3/8/2013) Passed away March 8, 2013

    The videos submitted show caboose # 1163 being placed in the new location.

    Since SLSF 1163 is a steel caboose but not the old series, how could it be number SLSF 1414 which would of been BN 11644?
     
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  7. mark

    mark Staff Member Staff Member

    Richard,

    It is unclear what you mean by your comment "since #1163 is a steel caboose but not the old series".

    What "old series" are you referring to?

    As indicated in the original post it is unknown why the caboose ever received the number 1163.

    These was speculation the numbers may have been the last four digits of a phone number, but that could not be confirmed, nor what the full number was or who or what it called.

    Hope this helps.

    Thanks!

    Mark
     
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  8. renapper (Richard Napper RIP 3/8/2013)

    renapper (Richard Napper RIP 3/8/2013) Passed away March 8, 2013

    I was referring to that fact that the old cabooses were renumbered by adding a 1 before there three digit number.

    And the old steel cabooses were the ones Frisco bought from the Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe (ATSF).

    I think they were CE-2s.

    Edit 5/14/2024: The Frisco caboose in the photographs and video is clearly an extended or wide vision caboose with an off center mid car body copula.

    The former Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe (ATSF) cabooses had end of car copulas.

    The former Santa Fe cabooses were sold by that railroad before they began their modernization program in the mid 1970s.

    As a result, they did not receive the car body side sealed windows, nor were the assigned the 999xxx series numbers as did the modernized rebuilds.

    Further, they were never classified as class CE-2 by that railroad.

    Therefore, it is inaccurate and inappropriate to refer to the cabooses by a CE-x designation.

    When the Santa Fe sold the cabooses they were classified as caboose series 1500, 1600 or 1700 cabooses.

    Added clarification concerning the types of caboose and proper designation of the former Santa Fe cabooses purchased by the Frisco.
    MKD
     
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  9. FriscoFriend (Bob Hoover RIP 4/12/2018)

    FriscoFriend (Bob Hoover RIP 4/12/2018) Passed Away April 12, 2018 Frisco.org Supporter

    Mark,

    That is interesting about the phone number.

    Maybe I should number one of my cabooses 6345789!
     
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  10. klrwhizkid

    klrwhizkid Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Bob,

    I am not aware of any Frisco cabooses that were nicknamed Jenny!

    Jenny's number was 8675309.
     
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  11. FriscoFriend (Bob Hoover RIP 4/12/2018)

    FriscoFriend (Bob Hoover RIP 4/12/2018) Passed Away April 12, 2018 Frisco.org Supporter

    Keith,

    There is always a first for everything!
     
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  12. yardmaster

    yardmaster Administrator Staff Member Administrator Frisco.org Supporter

    Never thought I would see a Tommy Tutone reference on a Frisco site. :)

    Well done, Keith!

    That does make for a more plausible caboose number, as opposed to Pennsylvania 6-5000, or Beechwood 4-5789.

    Best Regards,
     
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