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fireboy
07-14-2010, 06:54 PM
i have a Russian decapod and i need the right caboose can someone help?

yardmaster
07-15-2010, 08:04 AM
Jeremy -
American Model Builder's Kit #863 is always a good candidate. It should look quite dandy behind your Bolshevik.

http://www.laserkit.com/waycarho2.htm

Best Regards,

fireboy
07-16-2010, 04:08 AM
i have that kit its a good kit and it holds good when u dorp it (but i would not recommend dropping it) but i have not painted it, what paint should i use for it p.s. i got mricoscale decals for it and they look great

frisco1522
07-16-2010, 11:07 AM
I painted my AMB kits before I took them out of the "sprue" with Duplicolor Sandable Red Primer in a spray can. It's available at most auto parts stores. A great match.
I made a couple minor mods in the kit. I built the wood cupola, which has wire braces from the sides up to the cupola. I substituted Evergreen 1x6 and 1x3 for the fascia boards on the sides which let me cut the roof width down. That way the braces don't have to curve around the edge of the roof so far.
Also, on the end platforms, the dimension on the kit instructions say 36" high and it should be 30" for the railings. They are great kits and really make a dynamite caboose.

friscobob
07-18-2010, 01:13 AM
Hmm.....I have an RS1 and a GP7 in B&Y in addition to a Russkie Decapod, and IMO, that caboose would look great behind either one of them.

fireboy
07-18-2010, 02:14 AM
for GP7 & RS1 I Believe that the new centraila ce-1 caboose for frisco (well except correction on that) and for the steam loco. the wood laser-kit from AMB. on the paint would the floquil or one of the other model railroad paint AND the is caboose red paint okay?

frisco1522
07-18-2010, 12:21 PM
Caboose Red is too red for the wood cabooses. They were just a freight car red color. I haven't found anything that's as easy or quick as the red primer I mentioned. I'm putting the finishing touches (finally!) on a steel cupola caboose out of Evergreen styrene that I started many many years ago. I will fit right in with the scratchbuilt side door and wood cupola jobs as well as the AMBs.

mark
07-18-2010, 01:02 PM
Jeremy,

The former Santa Fe cabooses were acquired during 1969 and 1971.

Frisco steam engines and Also RS-1s locomotives had been retired before this caboose type had been put into local service on the Frisco. Also, they featured 4 digit caboose numbers implemented after the 1968 renumbering system. As a result, it would not be appropriate to see them as Frisco cabooses with these locomotives.

The West Springfield Car Shops or American Model Builders (AMB) kit 863 is the most appropriate option. This kit can be built with either the wood or steel cupola to model your favorite car(s). These cars can be numbered with the appropriate 2, 3 or 4 digits for use with a number of Frisco steam and diesel locomotive model types.

Other possible options include Frisco brass models by Hallmark or Overland. These cars are slightly undersize and oversize in proportions respectively. You might also consider the Walther's wood caboose based on the Grand Trunk prototype. This car has similar proportions and 3 car body side window arrangement similar to the Frisco's cabooses. However, it is not an exact Frisco replica. Please see http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/932-7500.

If you are modeling a period set in 1957 or later, consider using an extended or wide vision caboose. The Frisco was an early user of this style car. These cars eventually bumped the earlier cars from main line service to local service cabooses. The cars were originally numbered in the 200 series and in 1968 and later the 1200 series.

These cars have been produced in brass by Overland Models in 3 prior runs with a 4th run expected soon. Similar cars are available in plastic from several manufacturers, but need the cupola windows modified to be more like the Frisco's cars.

Hope this helps.

Thanks!

Mark

fireboy
07-19-2010, 03:42 AM
thanks for the entail. i didn't know if i was right so on the model part i would think no one would want to buy a brass caboose for over $300 when u could buy a wood laser cut kit for $30 but if brass is your thing but the AMB caboose is a GOOD kit for being wood.

dose another model co. make a frisco caboose in plastic?

mark
07-19-2010, 05:03 PM
Jeremy,

There is only 1 Frisco specific plastic caboose kit available.

Nick Molo, a noted Frisco author, historian, modeler and manufacturer, produced a kit for the company built cabin on flatcar style transfer cabooses in the SLSF 1300 series (1300-1342). His company, Moloco, specializes in high quality plastic detail freight car and caboose parts. Please see http://www.molocotrains.com.

The Moloco kit number was TC-3001. This is an excellent and well detailed Frisco prototype specific kit. It is intended for use with a Red Caboose 42' flatcar. Unfortunately it is currently out of production. However, they may be available on the internet or at swap meets. Hopefully, Nick will see fit to pull the molds back out and release them again soon.

At one time Nick considered producing Frisco specific cupolas for wide vision cars and toyed with a flat kit for the SLSF 1400 (1400-1442) local service and SLSF 1700 (1700-1725, 1776) pool service series cabooses. I for one deeply wish these projects had moved forward. Unfortunately for us, these projects did not progress as he felt he could not recover his tooling costs in sold models.

As a result, in plastic our options are limited at this time. The 3 options are scratch building, kit bashing or "close enough" modeling. Fortunately the West Springfield Car Shops or American Model Builders (AMB) kit 863 kit is a great prototype specific option that serves a long period from the 19 teens into the 1970s. It also affords us the options for a wood or steel cupola.

Hope this helps.

Thanks!

Mark

fireboy
07-20-2010, 12:10 AM
what about the MDC outside frame caboose?

mark
07-21-2010, 12:20 PM
Jeremy,

I am unable to locate a specific prototype for the Model Die casting (MDC) wood side outside braced caboose.

The model is similar to some cabooses operated by the Missouri Kansas and Texas (MKT) Railroad. These cars were constructed by the railroad during 12/1930. They were originally painted Sloan yellow with black lettering and numbers. The 25 cars were in that road's series MKT 796-820.

During the 1950s these cars were rebuilt and modernized. At that time they were repainted into Deramus or Barriger red with yellow heralds, lettering and numbers. The remaining 23 cars were also renumbered into the series MKT 31-53.

Unfortunately the MDC kit is not very similar to any of the Frisco outside braced cabooses I have seen. In 1925 the Frisco rebuilt some former boxcars into terminal transfer cabooses. These cars came from the 1906 and 1907 wood side single sheath outside braced 120000 and 126000 series.

These cars had a heavy (replacement?) underframe. The cars from the 120000 series became cabooses that were numbered SLSF 942-951. The cars from the 126000 series became SLSF 952-957 and 959-960. Please see http://thelibrary.springfield.missouri.org/lochist/frisco/friscoline/images/photos/p00864.jpg.

Later, in late 1953 and early 1954 the Frisco rebuilt 3 former Howe truss boxcars into steel sided outside braced cabooses. These cars were numbered SLSF 156, 157 and 158, They were renumbered in 1968 to 1156, 1157 and 1158. Please see Karl Brand photo http://www.frisco.org/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=2145&d=1138470158.

But again, the wood sided and roofed MDC kit is not a very good match.

Hope this helps.

Thanks!

Mark